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  I think this is an important question...

  by The Rebel in

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  when i first met my wife and on that so important first date i was 21 years old and sadly broke, she was an 18 year old au pair.

  any way i treated her to mcdonald's but she had to pay for the meal.

  now over 20 years later and still together, i realize how lucky i was she didn't say on that first date " if you can't afford to pay "our" mcdonald's meal f...off" .

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  Nathan Natas

  Because you read that as "sport scar," Dr. Freud might wonder what YOU are into, m'dear.

  
  
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  Bedroom Laws

  by XPeterX in

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  where is this based on?which verse of the bible says that we have to follow certain rules when it comes to sex?

  (i know this is a very discussed topic).what have you heard/seen?i am sure no one ever follows that..

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  Nathan Natas

  You have to free up your imagination a bit and suspend disbelief, but according to the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society, their publications will be the new new testament of the future. Really!
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  I think this is an important question...

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
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  when i first met my wife and on that so important first date i was 21 years old and sadly broke, she was an 18 year old au pair.

  any way i treated her to mcdonald's but she had to pay for the meal.

  now over 20 years later and still together, i realize how lucky i was she didn't say on that first date " if you can't afford to pay "our" mcdonald's meal f...off" .

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  Nathan Natas

  I'm curious about how it is you think you "treated her" if she paid?

  On my first dates, I generally offer a small sportscar.
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  Can’t cope with being disfellowshipped…..Need some advice

  by xxBettyBoopxx in

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  this site is great, i have been lurking for a while now.

  but i can’t get reinstated and have used some of the advice already given.. i was df’d many months ago and go to all the meetings and do all the preparation for the meetings, but the jc committee keep refusing me.

  tomorrow at the clam meeting i am puting yet another letter in and will be called for another dreadful jc meeting.. 1. what can i say to the elders to show that i am truly repentant?.

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  Nathan Natas

  Gonzobear suggested, "...Ask yourself what love is."

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  Can’t cope with being disfellowshipped…..Need some advice

  by xxBettyBoopxx in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this site is great, i have been lurking for a while now.

  but i can’t get reinstated and have used some of the advice already given.. i was df’d many months ago and go to all the meetings and do all the preparation for the meetings, but the jc committee keep refusing me.

  tomorrow at the clam meeting i am puting yet another letter in and will be called for another dreadful jc meeting.. 1. what can i say to the elders to show that i am truly repentant?.

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  Nathan Natas

  I'm not going to question your motives or your sanity; I'm going to tell you how the game is played:

  The name of the game is SUBMISSION, and the way it is played is you stop asking for reinstatement and remain silent, waiting on their ( the JC's) great good pleasure.

  When THEY are satisfied that they have broken you and that you are now compliant, they will reinstate you.

  Your role in this game is "PAWN." You must let the JC "have their way with you," and there must be no whimpering or protestation.
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  JW Stand On Concealed Carry

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
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  if a jw wanted to get a concealed carry permit, would the society have any moral or ethical problems with it?

  in other words, if one of your elders noticed you were carrying concealed, would they be apt to just ignore it or would they counsel you on it?

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  Nathan Natas

  "In terms of money and peace of mind, it is cheaper to be robbed than to kill a robber not give him the loot."

  Whose tombstone did THAT pearl of whiz-dumb come from?

  What do you do if the perp decides that he's going to "up the ante" a bit by torturing you before he puts you out of his misery? What do you suggest then, prayer and a nice herbal tea?

  Your life is your first possession. If YOU don't treasure it, who will? Baby Jay-sus?

  
  
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  "back in the day people didn't know not to abuse kids"- a jw explanation for their abuse scandal

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
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  a few weeks back i showed the guardian article about the borg refusing to cooperate with the charity commission into child abuse to a fellow jw.

  their response was quite amazing.

  they told me that in the 50s-80s people didn't know about child abuse, didn't know it was wrong and no one really believed children when they claimed they had been abused - even worldly people.. they said that alot of the time children lie about being abused or therapists plant false memories in their heads and that apostates lie about being abused to undermine our faith.. about the borg not cooperating with the commission they said that it was probably because they wanted to protect the identities of jw's who had been abused.

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  Nathan Natas

  Nice work, darkspilver!

  Hi ho Spilver!
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  JW Stand On Concealed Carry

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if a jw wanted to get a concealed carry permit, would the society have any moral or ethical problems with it?

  in other words, if one of your elders noticed you were carrying concealed, would they be apt to just ignore it or would they counsel you on it?

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  Nathan Natas

  You can carry a pistol, but you must not own any ammunition.
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  "back in the day people didn't know not to abuse kids"- a jw explanation for their abuse scandal

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a few weeks back i showed the guardian article about the borg refusing to cooperate with the charity commission into child abuse to a fellow jw.

  their response was quite amazing.

  they told me that in the 50s-80s people didn't know about child abuse, didn't know it was wrong and no one really believed children when they claimed they had been abused - even worldly people.. they said that alot of the time children lie about being abused or therapists plant false memories in their heads and that apostates lie about being abused to undermine our faith.. about the borg not cooperating with the commission they said that it was probably because they wanted to protect the identities of jw's who had been abused.

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  Nathan Natas

  "They told me that in the 50s-80s people didn't know about child abuse, didn't know it was wrong..."

  REALLY?

  Then how do they explain these articles, published in "AWAKE!" magazine?

  "The deputy chief of the Children's Bureau of the United States Department of Health, Education and Welfare expressed the concern that many persons are feeling about parental cruelty. This public official stated: "While child abuse is no new problem to the Children's Bureau, our deep concern today is motivated by its apparent increase and by its particularly violent nature." -- "PARENTS CAN BE CRUEL" AWAKE!, page 13, April 8, 1963

  "Corruption Widespread

  The Church of England is not the only religion beset with these moral problems. On August 5, 1960, in Edinburg, Texas, a young Roman Catholic priest was charged with attempted rape of a 20-year old college girl as she knelt to pray in the Sacred Heart Church. On December 3, 1960, the Des Moines Register reported that Roman Catholic priest Lawrence Dudink, 47, pleaded guilty in court to a charge of abducting a 17-yearold girl from St. Mary's Hospital in Superior, Wisconsin. The police found the priest and the girl in a two-room motel cabin in Phoenix, Arizona. -- "Is Religion Dying?, "AWAKE!, page 8, March 22, 1962
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  I won't be here for awhile

  by Quarterback in

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  not too sure how long it will be, but i think that i will not be in a position to look at this site.. i met some cool friends on here.

  i enjoyed having the speedy access to the private correspondence before the elders.

  thanks atlantis, and all those that have had a share in this.

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  Nathan Natas

  Truly I tell you today this site will not be in Paradise.